January 30th, 2006

Fundraiser–Body Armor


In the next couple of weeks a new site will be launched called Bake Sales for Body Armor, it is a not-for-profit site that will be dedicated to rasing money to buy body armor for the less fortunate men and women of our Armed Forces that cannot afford to buy it on their own. This not-for-profit is being endorsed by Bring It On! because we feel it is a disgrace that our own government cannot properly equip our brave men and women of the Armed Forces.

Bring It On! also felt that this is something that cannot wait and have decided to raise money in advance of the launch of Bake Sales for Body Armor. Please click on this link to donate and get a bumper sticker or shirt to show your support for this cause, all proceeds will be donated to Bake Sales for Body Armor. This is a non-partisan issue, the lives of our soldiers are at stake, please donate now!

After donating you can use this to put on your site and help get the word out.

And now a word from the creator of Bake Sales for Body Armor, Tammara Rosenleaf, who is a member of Military Families Speak Out (MFSO), Helena Peace Seekers, Just Don’t Go and the Prairie Chapel 12. Tammara’s husband Sean is currently serving in Iraq. Tammara can be reached at: tammara@bakesalesforbodyarmor.com

ok friends,

as many of you have been aware, charlie anderson of iraq vets against the war, and i have been working on this little project called bake sales for body armor.

this is because despite our government’s best and fervent insistence, we keep getting reports of soldiers who do not have it, and are in iraq, which is a stupid place to be in the first place, but really bad without body armor.

we know that the military says that they get the armor to those who need it the most, but the others need it none the less. at this point we have not heard of any one still lacking the breast and back plates, but some are still lacking the delt and side plates… the very things that were just such a hot topic when it came to the recent pentagon study regarding mortality and the marines… if you haven’t read this study and want to, let me know…

our web site dedicated to this effort will be going up in the next two weeks, it is being worked on by a really good designer, and what we have seen looks wonderful. you’ll all love it.

our first real bake sale will be feb 11, here in helena, but we will be looking for folks who want to host sales in other places, and there will be a place to post them on the site. we also plan to have a virtual bake sale, where you can down load pictures of baked goods with a receipt for your tax free donation, if you just want to donate to the cause.

we have the pay pal account set up, it will go up with the website, and a way for folks to sign up people who need things is also going up.

which brings us to the point where we say that this site is not limited to body armor alone..we will always put a soldier lacking armor at the top of the list, but, anything else a soldier needs over there, we will try to get for them…

our very good friend and sponsor, at bring it on, has come up with a fundraiser to support this cause. i’ve given you the link below… what i really like about this is that it addresses the need for the body armor, at the same time as it says… “What the hell do all these yellow ribbons have to do with real support of the troops”

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  1. windspike Says :

    TB,

    I’m in. Will pop over when the kids are napping and do my bit.

     Blog on.
     


  2. PhiloTBG Says :

    Great work! This is what patriotism looks like.

    If only wrapping yourself in the American flags and burning the Constitution stopped bullets and IEDs as well as body army… 


  3. The Bastard Says :

    Yeah, I must mention that that the Bake Sale site is being fully endorsed by the IVAW. Hopefully we can get the word out and help save the lives that this administration aren’t interested in.


  4. Gun-Toting Liberal Says :

    TB, yes INDEED this is what “Patriotism” looks like.  We need to keep ‘em alive in the field, then take care of them and keep our promises to them when they come back and reintegrate into civilian society again.  God Bless, and blog ON, brotha!


  5. The Bastard Says :

    Hey GTL, glad you are back. Missed you around here!!!!!! Welcome back and right back atcha!!


  6. The Bastard Says :

    I might also add that the base cost of the shirts are $16.99 a piece so if you buy a shirt you are donating roughly $10.00 to the fund raiser. The bumper stickers base cost is $2.99 so you are donating roughly $2.00 to the fund raiser.

    Nothing to hide here. Like we have said ALL proceeds are going to the fund raiser. 


  7. have skunk Says :

    THIS IS THE DUMBEST IDEA I’VE EVER SEEN.

    LET THE TROOPS FIGURE OUT THAT THEIR BRAVE REPUBLICAN POLITICIANS DON’T CARE ENOUGH ABOUT THEM TO MAKE DoD SUPPLY THEM WITH THE GEAR THEY NEED.

     WHAT DO WE SEND THEM NEXT? AMMUNITION?

     STUPID, STUPID, STUPID! YOU PEOPLE NEED TO WAKE UP.


  8. PhiloTBG Says :

    have skunk: Wrong on compassion, wrong on caps lock, wrong for America.


  9. The Bastard Says :

    Well Have Skunk, if Rummy stops supplying bullets than I guess we’ll have to do that to.

    Sometimes we go to war with the Secretary of Defense we have and not the one we wished we had.

    Suck it up fucktard and support the troops!!!! I bet you have like 10 ribbons on your Ford Bronco because you support the troops so much more than the next guy with a fucking magnetic ribbon!
     


  10. have skunk Says :

    Cocks.

     

    You miss the point, as usual.

     


  11. The Bastard Says :

    Wow! I’m impressed you used a three syllable word “usual”. I think you might be smarter than Bush!


  12. have skunk Says :

    If you people cared about the troops you would demand their withdrawl from the Iraqi meatgrinder.

    Screw the administation that cannot provide adequate equipment for its forces. This has nothing to do with supporting the troops…you people sound just like the rethuglicken wingnuts.

     Don’t attack me for pointing out the obvious. Good luck with your, uh, thing here.
     


  13. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    Skunk, the soldier that may not have the armour could very well be my husband who heads over to the Litter Box in March.  Another could be an old friend who is on his way to Afghanistan.   I suppose you are thinking of being on a higher plane somehow.  That it would teach the administration a lesson??? Well, since a man/woman in uniform won’t be able to say I won’t go if you don’t give me the right stuff… Let’s just agree that the DoD SHOULD give them their supplies, but that they aren’t.  But proving a point by allowing injury or death to a single soldier is abhorrent, immoral and disgusting.   

     

    ~LAW~ 


  14. The Bastard Says :

    When the Bake Sale site comes on-line there will be a link to sign up anybody that you feel needs assistance. I encourage everyone to sign up your loved on or friend if they need help. And of course donate often or starting putting your plans together to hold a bake sale!


  15. have skunk Says :

    I grew up in a military family, spent years living overseas, enlisted for four years in the infantry, and have numerous old friends who are either serving officers or NCOs.

     So I suppose now we need to start fublic fundraising efforts for ammunition, tires, field rations, mogas and airline tickets for the troops? Privately funded warfare? That’s where this is headed.

    The troops who get caught without proper equipment will get killed and be added to the list of victims of this moron monkey king’s war because he wanted one.

    What happens when we run out of resources to supply the troops? What then? Maybe Halliburton could pitch in a FEW BILLION DOLLARS out of their profit pool for boots. Or body armor. Or maybe all those mercenary contactors who are making $1,000 a week could throw a bone to their uniformed brothers?

    That’s too much to ask.

     
    Tell me why CITIZENS became the source of welfare for the United States Military? As usual, in George Bush’s America, its poor pitted against rich…they make us fight each other to deflect our attention from what’s really happening: the country is being LOOTED.

     Like I said, troops wiout proper body armor are mere victims of george Bush and his rich cronies. I’m just the messenger. Take it up with the politicians and president.


  16. The Bastard Says :

    Skunk, thanks for the message. Now, will you please buy a sticker? Or better yet a shirt?


  17. have skunk Says :

    I’ll give it some thought.


  18. Yep Skunk, put your money where your mouth is and help someone. You should know all about the difference between the polticial aims of the leasdership and the poor guy who is getting shot at. Yes we are demanding that the troops be brought home, but you know what - how long does that take? Over half the country is not in favor of our troops being there, and yet there they are. Why do you see this as an either or issue? 

    Maybe they are just victims - think of us as victims rights advocates. You can help the 19 year old, or you can bitch about George and do nothing.

    Which do you choose? 

     

     


  19.  I just bought mine. Anyone who buys one leave a shout out and get a special thank you.


  20. have skunk Says :

    Good point. I was getting my outrages twisted around. I’m amazed and more than pissed off that this government leaves our military twisting in the wind like this. Points taken, folks, thanks. Im outraged that this web site is even necessary…

     BELIEVE me, I’m not just bitching about the government anymore. Our nation’s future is at stake here.
     

    We’ve got to hammer these corporate whores in congress and the white house like they’ve never been hammered before. Because of my background, it’s not a natural response for me to “go political,” but this tinhorn administratin’s crap has gone waaaaaaay too far over the top. We’ve got to HAMMER them and hamer them good.
     


  21. The Bastard Says :

    HS,

    I’m glad we could beat you into submission. I was getting worried I thought were going to have to bring out the waterboarding! :-)  


  22. Kevin Wos Says :

    Well, this is a great cause. I wish I could donate, but I’m kinda low on cash right now. :(


  23. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    Skunk, I agree with you.  And thanks for realizing that proving a point across a grave is just too much to ask.  Haliburton SHOULD be paying.. but they aren’t.  B&R run the mess halls and most everything else in the Sand, and we are told they DO make decent food.  But the cost is insane!  The amount of overbilling is a scandal… and a crime I am sure.  But I am willing to bet NOTHING will happen…..


  24. Well Kevin, if you can’t donate  - put a post up on your blog. We maybe at opposite ends of the specturm but does that really matter to someone in the field? 

     

    HS, your rage is worthy, just remember to take it out on those who deserve it. Let’s always remember our troops out there are not the ones at fault. Good to see you breath deep.

     

    Now feel free to unleash the fury on Penn Avenue all you want.

     


  25. pol Says :

    How does this project jive with the fact that the DoD says families of soldiers killed with non-issue body armor on will not receive their $400K life insurance?


  26. Well that is certainly another aspect to the story you need to figth about, however if the choice is NO body armor or body armor, who do you think will need to death benefit first?

     

    Is it not amazing that this government will send guys to war and then jerk around when their families provide what teh government can’t? In WWII we would have been ASKED by the governmnet to kick in, here we are condemened for it.

    The negative backlash over that story however will hopefully get Congress or maybe even Bush himself to set things straight.

     

     


  27. Pia Savage Says :

    Cranky

    Loved the second to last line in your last comment about how we would have been commended during WW2.

    Now patriotism is supporting a unjust war, and not buying armor that might save a life, because if the person was to die his/her family will get 400K.

    That makes about as much as sense as anything the federal government does.


  28. windspike Says :

    You know, I’m reminded of the tired old slogan, “I can’t wait for the day when the airforce has to have a bake sale for a bomber and education gets all it needs.”  I think it need be adjusted given this sale.  Now that we are having a bakesale for armor, we must ask the government the following question:  If you can’t afford high quality armor for the troops fighting your war (as in “hey, let’s you and him fight”) and, you are leaving the children behind…ah fuck, i can’t finish this.  I’m starting to get as irate as have skunk.


  29. ken grandlund Says :

    I’ve put a link to the cafepress page and this post on the top of my site. i’ll be heading over to buy my things soon.

    As for some of skunks rage comments- it is true that the administration should be sending the troops what they need, but don’t forget, we’re already paying for everything the troops have through our taxes. consider this a return for that huge $400 per family the tax cuts gave us all a few years back. but i’m glad you’ve come around. we can despise the war, the administration, the failure of leadership, but to deny the soldiers needed protection simply to spite bush makes no sense.

    help armor these guys AND fight the corrupt regime at home and we make double the difference. as for the DoD quip about non-issue armor and losing life insurance, screw them. Maybe with the right armor, no matter the source, there won’t be as many policies to pay out on.

    Great cause guys, and thanks for the tip!


  30. Kevin Wos Says :

    I would put something up on my blog, but certain backers of the campaign clash with my political beliefs.


  31. The Bastard Says :

    Kevin, not meaning to call you stupid but that is the stupidest thing I’ve heard today. This isn’t a partisan issue. Men are dying. Regardless of the reasons, they are dying because they are ill equipped. Are you saying you would drive by an accident if you saw a liberal bumper sticker? I would hope you would put your politics aside and help the person.

    You know, some of your Repubs take money from people you probably wouldn’t agree with but you still back them.

    I’m glad to see that you would rather have men die than reach across the aisle and help them out. 


  32. Kevin Wos Says :

    Fine. Fine. I’ll put it up. But I will put up a disclaimer as well.


  33. IraqVet4Peace Says :

    I am one of the co-sponsors of Bake Sales for Bady Armor!  The site will be up in a few days (we hope, the web designer is typing as fast as she can.)  I’d like to say a bit about the questions that were posed here.  First, we are deeply offended that our government cna raise death benefits, but not spend money to adequatley protect our soldiers.  The idea started with body armor, but since then we have found that there are other needs as well, including medical supplies and communications gear.  So we will be purchasing anything that the soldiers need.  As TB noted, there will be a sign up page on the site.  This is confidential.  The administrators are the only people who will have knowledge of the full name and location of the soldier.

    We will send items that aid the health and safety of the soldier only.  We draw the line at weapons components. We  cannot and will not send ammunition.  We will not send scopes, shooting mats etc.  Body armor, medical supplies, communications equipment, kitchen equipment (there is a squad forward deployed that keeps missing meals because of the chow hall hours that requests a microwave) etc. 

    As for the question about whether the armor is authorized, we feel that ultimatley that choice is up to the soldier, not a pentagon staffer far from real danger.  We have not been able to confirm that there is a pentagon order against commercial body armor.  If I had had any type of armor in Iraq, I would have worn it authorized or not.  Our men and women in harm’s way should have that option.

    Skunk and others who share his belief, rest assured that this is not all we are doing.  We are dedicated to ending this war, but are not willing to sacrifice our loved one in the process.

    Finally, Kevin, I assume that the sponsors you are talking about is my organization Iraq Veterans Against the war.  I find it appalling that you would let your piddly political differences stand in the way of saving real people’s lives.  Secondly, I note your age and the fact that you have not served in uniform.  You have a lot of gall to judge those of us who have.  Burry some of your friends, loose sould in the mass himicide of innocent civillians, pass by those wounded and starving, then we’ll talk.  I fought in Iraq. I lost everything I had because of that war, but am still alive to tell the story.  I will tell that story and I will bring my brothers and sisters in arms home.  That’s my duty.  You have no right to judge me or anyone else.  Go there, then we’ll talk.


  34. Folks, helping the men and women who signed up to serve the country isn’t about Republican or Democrat, Conservative or Liberal or Hawk and Dove - it’s about feeling a sense of responsibility to get a kid who signed up because he wanted to go to college home alive. It’s about keeping a guy who was trying to put on his families table from being in a wheelchair for the rest of his life. It’s about protecting men and women who have the nerve to sack up and go when asked no matter who did the asking.

    WE can fight the poltiical wars all we want, but come on - does anyone here want to play games with those kids? We’re just trying to help our friends at Bakes Sales for Body Armor help the people who are out there serving in our name.

     

    Oh and IraqVet - I can assure you that your web deisgner is killing herself togt it done right. We won’t feed her till she does ;)  

     


  35. Barndog Says :

    I’ve had a few Bro’s go and thankfully come home from the sandbox in one piece.  I have one more to go - he will return this week (praying).  I didn’t fight in either sandbox war, however that didn’t stop me from showing up when I was called. This time, knowing what was in store for these young guys - I called HQMC and volunteered.  I was pleasantly told by the Master Gunnery Sergeant at Quantico, that I was a fine Marine and he appreciated my service to our Corps and country.  Sometimes age and physical limitations do get in the way - sure as hell doesn’t mean I wouldn’t go in a heartbeat.

    As for Kevin - being worried about his political viability…  Son - you’d better pull your head out of your ass and dammed fast,  before you run your cakehole about the very people who provided you with your ability to freely speak your mind in this nation.

    There’s a dammed awful lot of us who never made it back to this soil to ensure people like you give the Veterans of this nation the proper due respect we deserve.

    The next time you run off at the mouth, that guy standing next to you - just might be a combat Veteran… and May God have mercy on your soul if that’s the case.

    Semper Fidelis

     

     

     

     

     


  36. windspike Says :

    Okay, the kids are asleep. I just posted the sticker at the top of my location.  And, I am trotting over to the cafepress location to purchase a thing or two.

    Blog on all.  And may they bring our troops home safe, sound, and not in boxes draped in flags hocked to an all time record in debt to places like china. 


  37. 4Truth Says :

    they do not want to be there.

    50,000 troops made to stay.

     Hilferty said there are about 12,500 soldiers in the regular Army, as well as the part-time National Guard and Reserve, currently serving involuntarily under the policy, and that about 50,000 have had their service extended since the program began in 2002. An initial limited use of stop-loss was expanded in subsequent years to affect many more.

    BUSH sent our children to die without body armor or armor vehicles.

    Let him send his kids if believes in an unjust war. Our war was with the Taliban not Iraq. 


  38. Once agin folks, even when we agree with you about whether the war shoudl have been fought, lets try and keep this thread about HELPING those 50,000 and all the rest. Believe you me, we have plenty of ways to support getting our folks back home as safely as possible - this is a non political one. Sure it’s no Rick Santorum bumper sticker, but we can’t all be the uber patriot that he is. 


  39. cooper Says :

    My only question is …..am I am woman or a junior? ;)

    Nice Cranky I put a link on my sidebar and in my non post today.

    I’m not getting into all the pointless arguing about it there is no point to argue in this case.


  40. Well Cooper, your all woman - even if you are my junior. Your wisdom makes mockery of your youth.


  41. OTTMANN Says :

    4Truth,

    “BUSH sent our children to die without body armor or armor vehicles.
    Let him send his kids if believes in an unjust war. Our war was with the Taliban not Iraq.”

    The body armor thing is kind of ridiculous according to the soldiers themselves who do not to lug it around, saying it is more weight they don’t need.

    Today’s events where the reporters were wearing body armor proved that it doesn’t help as much as some think.

    Many won’t wear it because it slows them down when they need to move.

    Our war is with terrorism, hence the name WAR ON TERROR, and those regimes who sponsor terrorists. Iraq was indeed sponsoring terrorists for many years, as has Iran. You can guess what comes next.


  42. IraqVet4Peace Says :

     As I have said from the beginning it should be up to the individual soldier if he wants it.  However, if the DOD provided the armor to the troops a minimum of six weeks before deployment they would be used to it and mobility would not be an issue.

    I agree with Cranky that this is not the appropriate forum to be discussing the politics of the issue.   Howwever, I would like to point out that terrorism is not an ideology, it is a tactic.  I don’t recall hearing about The War on Blitzkrieg or a War on Raiding Parties.  War on Terror is simply an Orwellian term to keep us scared and not asking questions.

     


  43. Kevin Wos Says :

    Finally, Kevin, I assume that the sponsors you are talking about is my organization Iraq Veterans Against the war.  I find it appalling that you would let your piddly political differences stand in the way of saving real people’s lives.  Secondly, I note your age and the fact that you have not served in uniform.  You have a lot of gall to judge those of us who have.  Burry some of your friends, loose sould in the mass himicide of innocent civillians, pass by those wounded and starving, then we’ll talk.  I fought in Iraq. I lost everything I had because of that war, but am still alive to tell the story.  I will tell that story and I will bring my brothers and sisters in arms home.  That’s my duty.  You have no right to judge me or anyone else.  Go there, then we’ll talk.

     I already apologized for that remark. I was totally out of line. I am truly sorry for what I said.
     


  44. 4Truth Says :

    ottman  - your sad.

    vet4peace told you that.

    War on terror is played smart - not brute force.

    stretch our troops thin for halliburton.

    We are not world policeman, we can not spend a trillion $ for war like Iraq.

    Osama Bi Laden attacked us, the Taliban protected him.

    We destroy the Taliban & should of captured Bin Laden.

    BUSH went to IRAQ - he started a war for nothing

    we already won in afghanistan, we should of cleaned up & left.

    Then fight terror with brains, which BUSH does NOT have. 

     Instead people die because BUSH & Ottman are such experts at not needing bodyarmor when bullets are flying.

     


  45. Kevin Wos Says :

    Oh, and for the record, I won’t be able to enlist for frontline duty. I have lattice degeneration of the retinae, which has the potential to cause blindness.

    Believe me, I would enlist when it comes time for it, but I can’t. 


  46. IraqVet4Peace Says :

    Kevin,

    I was in the process of making my post when you made yours, so they passed in the web.  Your appology is accepted. 

    I am thankful that you will not be joining th meatgrinder and adding your life to the lives already destroyed by this war.

     


  47. IraqVet4Peace Says :

    I just saw the new story about the NBC reporters who were wounded today in Iraq.  They were subjected to an IED and then to small arms fire.  Though they were still wounded, we do not know if would have surrvived without the helmets, body armor and goggles or how their injuies would have been different.  The number of amputees and severely wounded soldiers surrviving battlefield trauma is higher in this war than in wars past.  This is in large part due to advances in protective equipment. 

    Together we can make a difference in the life of a soldier.


  48. The Bastard Says :

    Hey people, just for the record, thank you so much to everyone that has donated! So far for our first day we have raised $61.00.

    Dosen’t sound like much but to someone who’s life depends on it that means alot!!!!!!

    Thank you everyone and lets keep this up. Buy one for your neighbor. Buy a shirt if you want to donate more. Buy a sticker to place on your neighbors car or a strangers car.

    Fuck it! That’s what it is all about. Get the word out. Host a bake sale. This is how grass root movements are started.

    $61.00 just bought the troops that are forward deployed the microwave they are wanting (refer to IraqVet4Peace’s comment).

    Again thank you sooooo much. These guys need us and quite frankly putting a mgnet on your car where the profits go to some company that doesn’t support our troops isn’t gonna cut it!!!!

    Spread the word and lets make a difference!!!!!

    Love ya all!!! And I don’t say that often.

    Thanks Kevin for supporting our troops! 

     


  49. Kevin Wos Says :

    IraqVet, believe me, I would enlist if I could.

    I am thinking about getting a non-frontline desk job to help with college. I’m right between San Diego and Camp Pendleton, so I’ve got plenty of opportunities for that type of job available.
     


  50. PhiloTBG Says :

    Just got some stickers. Thanks again to Iraq Vets Against the War, Cranky, TB, and cooper for organizing, designing, and promoting this. Now I just have to find a couple people with cars to put these on. Maybe some NYC subway cars?


  51. IraqVet4Peace Says :

    Good morning!  Thank you to everyone who has helped us so far with Bake Sales for Body Armor.  According to MSNBC the reporters who were wounded near Taji yesterday are in serious but stable condition.  Both men were standing in the hatch of their vehicle when it came under attack from an IED and small arms fire.  Col Bryan Gamble, commanding officer ofLandstuhl Regional Medical Center, said today that the body armor the men were wearing saved their lives from “otherwise fatal wounds.”

    At Bake Sales for Body Armor we wish Mr. Woodruff and Mr. Vogt a speedy recovery.  They and their families are in our prayers.


  52. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    Whilst I will be doing this fundraiser I need to make you aware that some Family Readiness groups use the yellow ribbons as a fundraiser also.  So not every yellow ribbon on a car comes from WAlly World.


  53. The Bastard Says :

    Yeah and the USO actually sells them as well. But you know what, every bodega or mom and pop store I walk into in the NYC tri-state area sells these things and they are not affiliated with anything.


  54. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    I know.  They do the same here, every garage, Wally world, Target etc…  even the grocery store.


  55. Within reason Says :

    I just got some bumper stickers over there,anything to help out the troops is a good thing.


  56. Jam Says :

    I want to know how many virtual no-bake cookies can I bye for $10.00 and will you have the peanut butter ones as well as the chocolate ones?


  57. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    and what’s the virtual calorie and fat count?


  58. Daedalus Says :

    You do realize that soldiers who buy their own body armor are denied death benefits if they are killed over there, don’t you?  Many commanders won’t let their troops wear it, and the rest won’t do it because they don’t want their families to lose the death benefits.  Just make sure you don’t purchase something that can’t be used…

    peace
     


  59. Well D, that makes for an interesting debate - wear armor and maybe live, or not wear it and maybe die. Which would you choose? Also the folks organizing the bake sale are not just buying armor, but any other needed supplies to help our troops. Let me quote from Iraqvet4Peace incase you missed it:

     

    I am one of the co-sponsors of Bake Sales for Bady Armor!  The site will be up in a few days (we hope, the web designer is typing as fast as she can.)  I’d like to say a bit about the questions that were posed here.  First, we are deeply offended that our government cna raise death benefits, but not spend money to adequatley protect our soldiers.  The idea started with body armor, but since then we have found that there are other needs as well, including medical supplies and communications gear.  So we will be purchasing anything that the soldiers need.  As TB noted, there will be a sign up page on the site.  This is confidential.  The administrators are the only people who will have knowledge of the full name and location of the soldier.

    We will send items that aid the health and safety of the soldier only.  We draw the line at weapons components. We  cannot and will not send ammunition.  We will not send scopes, shooting mats etc.  Body armor, medical supplies, communications equipment, kitchen equipment (there is a squad forward deployed that keeps missing meals because of the chow hall hours that requests a microwave) etc. 

    As for the question about whether the armor is authorized, we feel that ultimatley that choice is up to the soldier, not a pentagon staffer far from real danger.  We have not been able to confirm that there is a pentagon order against commercial body armor.  If I had had any type of armor in Iraq, I would have worn it authorized or not.  Our men and women in harm’s way should have that option.

     

    Help spread the word. This is grass roots and so far none of the big “Name” sites have deemed it worthy enough to post a link. Hopefully that will change.  Whats funny is that even though they have ignored it (but boy put up a picture that looks lewd and they jump on it?)  many many blogs and websites that are our peers have picked up on it. We are making some strides. Any thing you can do to pass on the message is a God send. Isn’t 2 inches on your Blog worth helping to save a soldier?


  60. MIZ Says :

    Im 17 and im doing a project for school on the war and i was just curious why a soldier on a base would need body armor on a daily basis? i understand guys in the field but if hes just training on a base i dont think many bullets are coming his way…


  61. The Bastard Says :

    MIZ,

    I can only speak from what I have read but I believe some of the Vets that comment here can better tell you.

    From what I have read, some of those bases get pounded round the clock with mortar rounds and snipers are always a problem.


  62. IraqVet4Peace Says :

    There is no such thing as “just training” on a base in Iraq.  The soldiers are in a war zone 24/7.  Though many bases have modified defensive postures, any soldier can be tasked to go into the field at any time.  This being the case, armor is important. 

    Moreover, many soldiers who routinely go into the field do not have the proper armor anyway. 

     

     


  63. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    I have asked my husband to check on the “we won’t pay if you wear different body armour” thing.  So far, he hasn’t heard anything about it through any official channels.   As for the question from MIZ, according to the veterans of the conflict both in my family and others, getting mortared is an ongoing experience, especially at some of the Bases.  The base at Balad, where the biggest hospital is (where they took the ABC reporter and cameraman) is nicknamed Mortaritaville!  Body armour is worn at all times, except the shower… and some want to wear it there too!

     


  64. Kate R Says :

    wow.

    from troll to supporter.  Skunk, I admire you almost as much as I admire the people who set up this site. Anyone who can think while on emotional high-boil is worth a salute.

    Off to raid the sofa for loose change . . .

     


  65. tammara Says :

    hi folks,

    this is the other half of the bake sales for body armor duo, from military families speak out (mfso)  many things have been addressed on this topic, but i’d like to make a few comments about some of them.  first of all, my husband is currently in iraq, consequently, both of us are living in hell.  there are mortars lobbed into his base area quite regularly, and many soldiers sleep in their armor.  he has been in iraq for only a short time, and already 9 in his group are dead. (see this makes 9 under military on this blog)  when he went, he did not have the proper armor, he received some of it after he had already traveled to iraq from kuwait, manning a 50 cal gun. you need to know that he would have gladly worn the rest of the armor if he had it. he is not alone in this situation, many of those in his unit were without armor as well.  it was not until charlie anderson of ivaw and i began the bake sales project, and were interviewd in stars and stripes that he and his unit got all their armor. 

    most of the soldiers have the front and back plates, now.  many did not even have these in the invasion.  the armor we are talking about now is the side and deltoid plates.  these were cited in a recent pentagon study as being the pieces that would have saved 73 out of 90 marines. 

    my husband signed up to be a soldier because he believed in serving his country, and our bill of rights, and to pay his student loans. (the army’s failure to make good on this is the subject of a congressional inquiry that i have filed)  he believes in what i am doing, and says that it would be a poor reward for his sacrifice if i failed to exercise the rights he has signed on to defend.  he is not unclear about what he is doing in iraq, and he knows that it has nothing to do with defending our country, or our bill of rights.

    the lives of all of our troops are precious to me.  not just my husband’s life.  i fought very hard to get his armor, but not all familiy members can do what i have done because they don’t know how, or they are afraid.  nonetheless, they all want to protect their soldier, to see them come home.  no amount of money can replace a soldier, no death benefit is any benefit or comfort to a new gold star mom, dad, wife or husband.  i want my soldier wearing armor, and i will do my best to get it on every soldier that wants to wear it. 

    where do you think they get the idea that the armor is heavy and makes them slow?  they get it from the very people who are reluctant to provide it for them.  if they were properly trained as charlie mentions, for 6 weeks before they left for iraq, they would learn to live in the armor… and the key to this is LEARN TO LIVE.  no one takes it into their head to climb mount everest without ever training to mountaineer with a fully loaded pack do they?  well, why would anyone ever send a soldier to a war zone without assuring that they knew how to live in the best armor that we could get for them?

    finally, and most importantly, this is not about politics.  people ask those of us in the national anti-war effort all the time about supporting the soldiers.  what makes any of them think i am not supporting my soldier, or all soldiers by my effort to protect them, and to make the people who sent them there accountable for their actions.  many of the things i do are less concrete than this action.  plain and simple, this is direct support for a soldier who asks for it.  what argument is there to have? 

    every day i get up with the intention of stopping the war today.  every night, i go to bed, knowing that i failed.  so far. and i cry for our soldiers and our country.  but every morning, i get up and try again. while i am trying, i want to know that they will be alive for us to bring home.  giving them body armor, sending them a microwave so that they can eat, or medical supplies to help a medic keep a brother or sister alive, does not directly prolong this war.  it only reduces the number of lives destroyed until we can bring it to an end. 

    so please, lets not argue about it.  this is simple.  bringing them home means keeping them alive until we can do that. 

     

     


  66. Nonny Mouse Says :

    I’m an ex-pat in the UK - bumper stickers and magnets aren’t that well-known over here.  I may be the only person in the shire with a bumper sticker that reads:  Support Our Troops, Bring Them Home, because it applies just as equally to Her Majesty’s Cannon Fodder For Oil as our own.   Happy to support the cause - I want ALL our people home, where they belong.  Do you post to the UK?


  67. The Bastard Says :

    Hey Nonny, thanks for your support!!! I think we were the only blog yesterday in the US that even mention the 100th British soldier being killed! It’s a travesty! Not sure what you mean by do we post in the UK?

    Thanks again for your support and would be awesome to see some bumper stickers across the pond. 


  68. tammara Says :

    tb,

    silly, nonny said to the uk not in.  means do you send the items overseas.  nonny wants to buy something i think.  would you send it there if so?

    love,

    tammara


  69. The Bastard Says :

    Hey Tammara and Charlie, I have been doing an update post everyday just so you know. This thread is getting kind of long. Man I can’t wait for your site to launch. In some ways I don’t think people think this fundraiser is legit.

    Keep an eye out for the new posts each day.

    Just so everyone knows we are reaching the $200.00 mark. Choo-Choo gaining momentum! 


  70. Liberal Army Wife Says :

    tammara:  From one army wife to another.  Hang in there.  My husband is in the National Guard (wanted to go Active, but got held by his unit because of deployment)  They have been in training for 4 months, and have been wearing their armour for at least 3 of those months.  The first few days everyone bitched about the weight, but now they are used to it.  My husband even uses it for weight training (do pushups wearing it… that’s over 30 lbs extra!)   They go over later this spring. 

    My husband supports me too, in anything I do up to and including protests, any of my bumper stickers etc.  Like Tammara said, freedom of speech is one of those things they are in uniform to defend.  This administration doesn’t seem to think so (see: Cindy Sheehan arrested before State of the Union for a T Shirt) 

    Nonny, if cafepress won’t ship to the UK, let me know, we’ll get them to you somehow.  I went to Public School in the UK, so I do still have some connections over there.  Let’s spread the word.

    ~LAW~


  71. Brass Peace Knuckles Says :

    I just ordered some stickers.  I know this fundraiser is one of the most important that I have seen.  I too hope to see Tammara’s site up soon… a very worthwhile cause.


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  73. MoxieGrrrl Says :

    Erk!  Just realized I hadn’t gotten to throw a link up on my site, nor purchase a gorgeous new bumper stick to add to my car’s “We can’t be leaders if our leaders mislead” and “Your silence will not protect you” stickers!  Rectifying that issue as I type this.

    PS:  Has anyone else had their car keyed because of their bumper stickers?   My consolation is that at some point I can pick a pretty new color to paint my car. 


  74. Bring it On! » Blog Archive » Bake Sales for Body Armor Has Arrived!!! Says :

    […] As stated all along, the proceeds from our stickers will be donated to them and we will contunue to donate all proceeds moving forward. To date we have raised just over $350.00. You can still buy the bumper sticker but if you want to help out in other ways head on over to Bake Sales for Body Armor and make a donation or sign up to host a bake sale or if you have a loved one in the military that needs equipment head on over and sign them up. […]


  75. Dude Says :

    Why do the maganets have to be ribbons shaped like a jesus fish?

    Why can’t it be in resemblence to body armour itself and state ,

    Another privately protected soldier   or   An Eagle with only a right wing will spiral to the bottom.

     

    something like that…….Besides the Get-R-done dudes would rather have a cool charcaol gray sticker that looks like a bullet proof vest. 


  76. Scott-O-Rama Says :

    Can I PayPal a donation?  CafePress doesn’t accept PayPal, and that’s a pain in the butt.


  77. Scott-O-Rama » Around the Blogosphere: June 17th Says :

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