October 5th, 2006

West Point Male Military Cadets Drop Giant Water Balloon on Female Cadet in Porta-Potty

While our cadets are pleading for more free time I believe the video above clearly shows they have way too much time on their hands. Not only was this and act of sexual harrassment but it could have killed the female cadet. These are our future military leaders folks, are these the future leaders that will allow another Abu-Ghraib to happen?

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  1. Justin Says :

    Come on, get over yourself, have you ever served in the military?  We are asking these fine men and women to put their lives on the line for sometimes questionable reasons, they need to depart from reality on occaision

    Or do you really want straight laced, non creative people in the military, unable to see anything but the text of the order in front of them, because that is what you are asking for.

    No-one died, huge joke at someones expense, if her feelings are hurt then perhaps she might not want to consider a career in an organization that will place her in the path of weapons physical and phsycological.

    I hate the neo conservatives, and I hate what this country has become, but we need to not swing back the other way, PC has already imasculated the military, don’t make it any worse.

     


  2. Steve O Says :

    Yes Justin, I served. These actions were reckless. It was not a simple prank. Did you see what the balloon did to the hardened plastic? At that height the balloon could have broken her neck. How heavy was the balloon?

    And on top of that they had the nerve to put it on MySpace as a trophy. No, this is not what I expect my tax to be paying for.
     


  3. robert Says :

    Boys will be boys. Girls were designed to be something alltogether  different than boys. Some will never understand that. No amount of social engineering or legislation will change that.


  4. Lindy Says :

    Hmm. It’s tough to tell whether or not this was sexual harassment. From the audio on the clip, it sounds like they were targeting her specifically, but we don’t know what led up to it. For all we know, she could have been in on it too and it could have been part of friendly banter or competition. Certainly, it was a dangerous prank, but if you look closely, I think you’ll find that she was in the next stall over and didn’t get hit with it at all. I think your wording in your post is a bit cryptic considering all that we don’t know about this incident. And I think you may be yelling ’sexual harassment’ just a tad too easily and a bit early. Protecting the underdog or minority in this big bad world is an honorable thing, but be careful that you don’t cross over and become as extreme as what you are fighting against. By the way, it’s not realistic to put people through basic training, to mold them for war, program them to kill people, operate as any robot would (for God and country)and also expect them to employ the same kind of conscience and morals the rest of us typically would. There is something extremely cracked in that theory and the evidence shows up everyday in the papers in the form of Abu-Graib.


  5. Doug Says :

    While I don’t believe women belong in the military, they are there and the concept of Honor demands that compatriots be treated with respect. However, my experience as an enlisted man is that officers are the lowest of the low, the scummiest of the scum, the biggest liars and the most ready to commit criminal acts.

    The only good thing about all this is that these morons are headed to Iraq where they will either get killed by freedom fighters or will have serious lifetime illnesses from all the DU dust floating around the Iraqi air currents. If they are lucky, they’ll get killed outright.


  6. todd Says :

    It’s callous to play the stupid ‘blowing steam’ card when it involves an incident where serious injury could have resulted. Only fools with a feministic child mindset think that it’s only serious if someone got hurt and no big deal if someone didn’t. I’m sure the moron who threw that frozen turkey through that poor woman’s windshield thought it was no big deal…until he nearly killed the woman who needed a near face transplant to fix the damage the frozen turkey caused.

    And whoever it was with the moronic “boys will be boys” tripe ought to a) read read and read lots of books to gain basic rudimentary knowledge the normal sane world calls “common sense” and b) will most likely have to settle on a low-bred white-trash girl who is very much not a woman as we know them.


  7. Steve O Says :

    Sexual harrassment is about power. It’s about thinking you have the ability to subject another human being to unwanted advances because you feel there will be no recourse. It comes in many different forms and this could clearly be one of them.

    The fact that she might have been in the other stall is irrelevant. There actions could have caused harm. Water balloon or not that ballon drops at the same rate of speed as a cinder block and could have definately killed her.

    These are not the actions of future leaders in the field. 


  8. CURT Says :

    If she can’t take it, she should get the hell out. My fellows and I did much worse to male recruits and none of them whined and bitched.


  9. Harvey Says :

    Being a retired military person, she must get revenge plus one up to show she is equal to the task, she can’t just walk away from the incident.


  10. fuck the US military Says :

    The US military is nothing less than an organized child rape gang. Are you stupid enough to believe that Haditha was an isolated incident? Occupation means rape - occupation by Americans is no different.

    If you rob a bank, and I drive the getaway car, then I am guilty of bank robbery. To date, only ONE officer has refused orders because the orders were illegal.

    These scumbags are NOT protecting us. They are, in fact, violating the law by following illegal orders. They are also violating Article VI of the Constitution - a document that have sworn to uphold with their lives.

    I do a little dance everytime I hear about one of your scum “heroes” getting blown up by an IED, That’s one less rapist scumbag for the Iraqis to deal with, and one less deranged PTSD racist piece of shit to come back to our communities.


  11. Candy Says :

    She was in the toilet.  It blew the door open.  They had a video camera pointed right at her.  If this happened at an office, these guys would be fired.  It was all males throwing a 20-30 pound bag of water at a girl in the toilet.  From the looks of what happened to the toilet, that could have killed someone.  And that’s clearly destruction of property at the least.  How are these guys supposed to be trusted with commanding air-raids if they think this is funny?  Watching enclosures with people inside implode with a bang and an explosion shouldn’t be on their list of liesure activities.  I weep for the state of our military.  If they’re this stupid, so wonder they’re so easily controlled.


  12. SayNo2Aggression Says :

    let’s have more of those “Support Our Dipshits” stickers on our vehicles shall we..


  13. anondescriptname Says :

    “It was all males throwing a 20-30 pound bag of water at a girl in the toilet.”

    If that were all it weighed it wouldn’t have needed two soldiers to carry. Water is heavy and that thing was big.

    This easily could have been fatal.


  14. Pat Says :

    Males attracted to military service are a rambunctious group. In the military academies they are vetted for high IQ’s so they knew what they were doing.  I believe they had a grudge with that particular person who happened to be female. They were probably weeding out inferior material is my guess.


  15. FR67 Says :

    this is exactly the kind of mentality that allows for ‘collateral damage’ to be acceptable

    not only was the act an assault on the woman, the destruction of government property, but childish to the extreme

    in this situation there were certainly followers and leaders, all of which should be expelled from the Academy

    such thoughtlessness and sophomoric antics are NOT acceptable in an institution such as our nation’s military academies.


  16. CombatVet Says :

    These morons apparently  missed the memo that explained the concept of “officer and a gentleman”.  And they’re going to be leading trooops in combat in a couple years.  Give me a break.


  17. Tom Says :

    As a former COE officer I can categorically state that academy officers are NOT vetted for high IQs.  Some of the worst and dumbest officers I’ve encountered were academy-types - as were some of the best and smartest.  These losers were obviously not high-IQ.


  18. rgl Says :

    Steve O:

    You have WAY too much time on your hands. Get a life.


  19. Tyrone Keels Says :

    It is really unfortunate that a false concept of manhood is still deceiving so many people. No wonder the young people are confused. Without character or principles, young men become fake men. It is manly to do what is right. We aim low by saying we need a break from doing right sometime. 

     Ex Submarine sailor - SSN 590
     


  20. liberal vet Says :

    A gallon of water weighs about ten pounds. That bag was way heavier tha t 30, it could of killed her. Do we know if she knew about the “joke”. LV


  21. nebgreen Says :

    Hey CURT,

    Maybe those male recruits didn’t whine or bitch because you threatened to beat the holy living fuck out of them if they did. 

    These people have no honor or respect.  I’ve NEVER met a man who was retired military who didn’t treat me like shit, and I have never been military (thank God).  These people think they’re fighting for “God and country”.  What a steaming pile of hogcrap.


  22. liberal vet Says :

    Who are they fighting for, Exon? LV


  23. Army D I Says :

    I’m an ex Army Drill Instructor and if this is the kind of judgement they are teaching at West Point and these clowns are an example of our future commanders then we are in big trouble. I didn’t hear one of them try to stop the obviously dangerous plan. No leadership there.


  24. Doug Says :

    “If she can’t take it, she should get the hell out. My fellows and I did much worse to male recruits and none of them whined and bitched.”

    This only shows how sadistic and brutal American society truly is. The Abu Ghraib photos didn’t shock most Americans because Americans are at heart a brutal and cruel people. Of course, like any other group of criminals, Americans scream bloody murder when their rights or “dignity” are not properly respected and like true criminals they seek “get out of jail free” cards at all times, hence the continuous pressure to exempt Americans from being prosecuted by the basic laws of civilized humanity.


  25. Doug Says :

    “They were probably weeding out inferior material is my guess.”

    More like a criminal gang weeding out any who might have a conscience or a shred of honesty.


  26. nogo postal Says :

    The following link leads to the name and ages of females killed in Iraq..

    http://icasualties.org/oif/female.aspx 


  27. nogo postal Says :

    sorry that link does not work..but if you go to http://icasualities.org

    and click statistics you can get the info…

    Bush keeps lying…troops keep dying


  28. nogo postal Says :

    note…you have to type it not link it……


  29. spook sniffer Says :

    Unbelievable. Anyone that would defend the action of these morons is clearly several sandwiches shy of a picnic…


  30. HUMAN BEING Says :

    death to ALL american soldiers, male, female, or otherwise. you are a bunch of nazis who ae “just following orders”

    death to the fucking american people to allow this to happen!!! you sit there watching TV and getting fat while RADIOACTIVE weapons are being used against CIVILIANS and CHEMICAL phospohorus weapons are used against CHILDREN! you are criminals! murderers!

    death to your colony israel!!!

    the world will oppose you. what side of history do you want to be on? DESTROY AMERICA NOW OR BE DESTORYED YOU FILTHY SUBHUMAN FUCKING PIECES OF SHIT!

     


  31. Ditto Says :

    Now there’s a fine example of a ‘HUMAN BEING’. 


  32. pilot33 Says :

    > death to your colony israel!!!

    actually, it’s just the opposite.


  33. grow a brain Says :

    Fucking meatheads.  Where the hell is my passport??


  34. VANCOUVERITE Says :

    The Word from Canada is that you Americans are really fucked up so please don’t visit Canada

     

     


  35. BoBo Says :

    i have to say i’m impressed with the maturity of this comment section. very intelligent answers to the vile apologists justin robert and curt. as well as intelligent dialogue and ignoring the rabble rousers RGL and “Human Being” who are probably FBI agent provacateurs trying to get ourr emotions up. i salute you all as obvious examples of intelligentsia.

    these cadets show the underlying pathology of what is wrong with the us military. its why the military needs to recruit so young, break down their psyche ( which had only 17 years to form) and re-form them into what they want. take me in my late 30’s and i’ll walk away from boot camp the same person with the same values.


  36. HUMAN BEING Says :

    SELF-DEFENSE IS BEAUTIFUL.

     

    ALL VICTORY TO THE IRAQI FREEDOM FIGHTERS.

    DEATH TO ***ALL*** AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND THOSE THAT SUPPORT THEM.


  37. DarthJewdi420 Says :

    Note the pattern:

    Comments submitted by those who are supportive of this behavior are fraught with errors in logic and base on conditioned emotional responses keyed to “buzz words”

    Comments submitted by those who are not supportive of this kind of “hazing” are usually an appeal to better angels of our nature.

    What does that tell you?

    (Attention Neocons: that was a rhetorical question)


  38. H. Evers Says :

    Dear BoBo,

    “these cadets show the underlying pathology of what is wrong with the us military. its why the military needs to recruit so young, break down their psyche ( which had only 17 years to form) and re-form them into what they want. take me in my late 30’s and i’ll walk away from boot camp the same person with the same values.”

    The enlistment limits are now 45 years old.  I am sure the Army can find you a place.  I am also sure that there is no way you would ever contemplate the life of self-denial and sacrifice that is necessary to be a soldier.  It takes a real human being to denigate all by the actions of a few. 

     

    Dear Human Being,

    Your keepers are looking for you.

     

    Dear all,

    I am always amazed by the willingness of some of the people on this site to believe the worst about those who do the most for you and ask the least.  Mr. O. it seems cannot pass up any opportunity to castigate the military.  Several others also offer hateful and extremely prejudiced comments that if made about any minority would automatically be universally condemned.  Yet, because we are talking about Soldiers or Sailors or Airmen or Marines anything goes.  Collectively you have displayed a lynch mob mentality and you should be ashamed.   I would suggest that those of you who have not served, have not watched friends die; please stifle your comments about things military you know nothing about.  Those of you who have served please remember the truly stupid things you did when you were 19 or 20 years old and thought you could never die.  This is most definitely not an excuse because what they did was really stupid; but, stupidity is something young people come with in abundance.  The Services actually try to wise them up a little. 

    Here are two thoughts that no one appeared to think relevant:

    Did any of you wonder how old and what year these people are?  Maybe just maybe they came to West Point w/o the common sense God gave a rock?  Soldiers are made (some of you believe ill-made) by training.  Could it be that these want-to-be soldiers have had little training and are in reality still mental civilians?

    Does anyone know what happened afterwards?  Incidents like this tend to get you into serious trouble.  Why?  Because the are not tolerated by the Army and are punished harshly.  Could it possibly be that these individuals are no longer with the Armed Forces?

    All the best


  39. H. Evers Says :

    Dear DarthJewdi420,

    It tells me that you need to study logic more since you can “logically” defend just about anything.  It is also possible to “do the correct thing” because of “conditioned emotional responses keyed to “buzz words”.  So what does that tell you?  It tells me that you have little knowledge and less experience.

    All the best.


  40. H. Evers Says :

    Just can’t seem to stop reading and rereading some of what can only be called the most ignorant posts I have ever seen.  I mean really, the individuals who acted so stupidly in the video are being run a close 2d by posts like this.

     

    Dear Doug,

    You who wrote;

     “This only shows how sadistic and brutal American society truly is. The Abu Ghraib photos didn’t shock most Americans because Americans are at heart a brutal and cruel people. Of course, like any other group of criminals, Americans scream bloody murder when their rights or “dignity” are not properly respected and like true criminals they seek “get out of jail free” cards at all times, hence the continuous pressure to exempt Americans from being prosecuted by the basic laws of civilized humanity.

     Golly we sure are “Dougi”.  We Americans are so much more brutal than those peace loving Islamic Fascists arn’t we “Dougi”.  You need to get out more “Dougi”, I recommend a nice Paris suburb for a short walk.  Of course you will not survive the walk but the education you receive (from my point of view) will be worth it.   Boy they sure must be sanctimonious and pure where ever you live “Dougi”.

    All the best


  41. Froenx Says :

    you guys do realize this video is at least a few years old..  right?



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