What We Now Know About Iraq (and Should’ve Seen Coming)
June 5th, 2007 | by Jersey McJones |The Iraq War is and always was about OIL.
The War never had nor now has anything to do with bringing DEMOCRACY to Iraq and the Middle East.
The WMD excuse for invading and occupying Iraq was a lie.
Saddam Hussein had no working relationship with Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, and no involvement with 9/11.
The Administration was well AWARE, prior to the War, that the invasion and occupation would destabilize Iraq and the Middle East, raise oil prices, and create more international terrorism.
MORE Americans have died because of the War in Iraq than died on 9/11.
The total cost of the War will be at least TWO TRILLION dollars and Iraqi oil moneys has not paid any of this, contrary to pre-War predictions from the Administration.
CHRISTIANS are less safe now than they were under Saddam Hussein in Iraq.
WOMEN in Iraq are worse off now than they were under Saddam Hussein.
MORE Iraqis were killed during the Iraq/Iran War, the Gulf War and subsequent siege years, and the current invasion and occupation than were killed otherwise by actions of Saddam Hussein.
Worldwide TERRORISM has been on the rise every year since the start of the War in Iraq.
American POPULARITY globally has plunged since the onset of the “War on Terror” and the War in Iraq.
JMJ
(Feel free to add to the list… Lord knows there’s plenty more I could’ve added!)
8 Responses to “What We Now Know About Iraq (and Should’ve Seen Coming)”
By christopher Radulich on Jun 5, 2007 | Reply
Many of us did.
By Jersey McJones on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
Me too!
JMJ
By SteveIL on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
Leftists on editorial boards are notorious LIARS.
Leftist bloggers are notorious LIARS.
It was hardly the only excuse. Only leftists claim it was the major reason. It should not have been made such a high priority, but so be it. Besides, who said they were even in Iraq when the U.S. invaded? They very well could still be somewhere else.
Maybe not to 9/11, but there were connections to Al Qaeda. Leftists lie about this one all the time. It’s almost like their denying their own hero Stalin not having a relationship with Hitler.
It was already destabilized.
That kind of kills your first argument, doesn’t it?
Nobody was safe under Saddam Hussein. Again, only leftists spout off these lies. Mostly because they ignore or don’t know all about what’s going on there.
What a stupid statement. Saddam Hussein started the Iraq/Iran war by invading Iran. Saddam Hussein caused the Gulf War by invading Kuwait. Saddam Hussein was responsible for his people’s misery for the 12 years under sanctions. And those other actions are the mass murders of hundreds of thousands of his own people he wanted done. What other actions could you possibly be referring to?
And hardly any of it has to do with our being in Iraq. Not the terrorism against Israelis, not the terrorism against non-Hezbollah Lebanese, not the terrorism in Afghanistan, not the terrorism in India, not the terrorism in Thailand, and not the terrorism in the Philippines. Hell, the terrorism on 9/11 wasn’t caused by us being in Iraq since WE WEREN’T IN IRAQ!!! Maybe it’s that the Islamofascists are making their move now.
Harper’s elected. Sarkozy’s elected. Merkel’s elected. All pro-American or more supportive of America than their anti-American predecessors. Blair’s party re-elected to a majority in the Commons, and Blair remaining Prime Minister. Rasmussen of Denmark re-elected. Good working relationships with Poland, Czech Republic, Japan, Australia. A new alliance with India. No sir, the populatity hasn’t plunged. It has only plunged where anti-American vermin infect the UN and amongst leftists, who didn’t like us anyway.
Let me know when you figure it all out.
By Jersey McJones on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
SteveIL,
You absolutely HAVE to be a faker. There’s no way anyone would be stupid enough to post that last comment.
1: New oil Iraqi bill lobbied by our government cedes control of the most important economic sector in Iraq to foreign interests at a time when the country desparately needs the money and against the wishes of the Iraqi people. And if Iraq had no oil I 100% guarentee that we would not have invaded in the first place.
2: The Iraqi people want us out, and a majority in the parliament want us out, yet we simply ignore them. If you think that’s bringing them democracy then you are in fact retarded.
3: We still haven’t found any WMD.
4: There is no evidence of a working relationship between Saddam and Al Qaeda, liar.
5: The region was a hell of a lot more stable before the war than now. In fact, the same could be said for the entire world. The stupid cons screwed up the entire world in a half dozen years. Super Incompetents.
6: The fact is that women and christians were safer under Saddam, liar.
7: We were behind or involved in every war in Saddam’s history. We never had to be.
8: We were in seige of Iraq when 9/11 happened, and the rhetorical excuse was our presense in Saudi Arabia. You must have been norn after 9/11, little child.
9: All polls show our popularity down. Foreign elections have nothing to do with us.
Ya’ know. I don’t believe you anymore. I think you’re a fake con. No one is that intensely stupid.
JMJ
By Chris on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
he WMD excuse for invading and occupying Iraq was a lie.
It was hardly the only excuse. Only leftists claim it was the major reason. It should not have been made such a high priority, but so be it. Besides, who said they were even in Iraq when the U.S. invaded? They very well could still be somewhere else.
President bush 2002
8:02 P.M. EDT
THE PRESIDENT: Thank you all. Thank you for that very gracious and warm Cincinnati welcome. I’m honored to be here tonight; I appreciate you all coming.
President George W. Bush delivers remarks on Iraq at the Cincinnati Museum Center in Cincinnati, Ohio, Monday night, Oct. 7, 2002. White House photo by Eric Draper. Tonight I want to take a few minutes to discuss a grave threat to peace, and America’s determination to lead the world in confronting that threat.
The threat comes from Iraq. It arises directly from the Iraqi regime’s own actions — its history of aggression, and its drive toward an arsenal of terror. Eleven years ago, as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was required to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, to cease all development of such weapons, and to stop all support for terrorist groups. The Iraqi regime has violated all of those obligations. It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons. It is seeking nuclear weapons. It has given shelter and support to terrorism, and practices terror against its own people. The entire world has witnessed Iraq’s eleven-year history of defiance, deception and bad faith.
Saddam Hussein had no working relationship with Al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden, and no involvement with 9/11.
Maybe not to 9/11, but there were connections to Al Qaeda. Leftists lie about this one all the time. It’s almost like their denying their own hero Stalin not having a relationship with Hitler.
“There was no significant pattern of cooperation between Iraq and the al-Qaeda terrorist operation,” former State Department intelligence official Greg Thielmann said this week.
Intelligence agencies agreed on the “lack of a meaningful connection to al-Qaeda” and said so to the White House and Congress, said Thielmann, who left State’s Bureau of Intelligence and Research last September.
Another former Bush administration intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity, agreed there was no clear link between Saddam and al-Qaeda.
“The relationships that were plotted were episodic, not continuous,” the former official said.
A United Nations terrorism committee says it has no evidence — other than Secretary of State Colin Powell’s assertions in his Feb. 5 U.N. speech — of any ties between al-Qaeda and Iraq.
Even Bush finally admitted it but I was unable to find the quote on the internet.
MORE Iraqis were killed during the Iraq/Iran War, the Gulf War and subsequent siege years, and the current invasion and occupation than were killed otherwise by actions of Saddam Hussein.
What a stupid statement. Saddam Hussein started the Iraq/Iran war by invading Iran. Saddam Hussein caused the Gulf War by invading Kuwait. Saddam Hussein was responsible for his people’s misery for the 12 years under sanctions. And those other actions are the mass murders of hundreds of thousands of his own people he wanted done. What other actions could you possibly be referring to?
From todays Paper - 4.2 million displaced since war began. 2.2 million have fled the country. 2 million displaced within the country. 30,000 contiue to flee each month.
There is no good count on the # of iraqi’s kill. The estimates vary from the tens of thousands to the hundreds of thousands.
By SteveIL on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
Jersey said:
You seem to be, if you even believe half of the garbage you spew.
Chris, one speech does not a justification for war make. As a matter of fact, a September, 2002 speech and the 2003 SOTU do mention the other reasons.
Two Senate Select Intelligence Committee reports show there was a relationship between Saddam and Al Qaida. And quoting from the UN? These are the assholes who cover for the bin Ladens and the Saddam Husseins of the world. Give me a fucking break.
I noticed none of you give a figure on how many left Iraq, at least those who survived trying to flee while Saddam was still in charge, and how many died trying to leave. How many do you think? Don’t know? Why am I not surprised that you don’t know (and don’t care to find out, thus YOUR hypocrisy), and why am I also not surprised that the idiot (Un)American leftist MSM has never bothered to find out.
By Jersey McJones on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
SteveIL, try reading THE LINK.
JMJ
By Paul Watson on Jun 6, 2007 | Reply
SteveIL,
As I can’t be bothered going through the same arguments as the last time you said that other countries’ elections means their people support the elctions, people can find them here.