Bill Clinton Goes Off on Obama Supporter
May 9th, 2008 | by Steve O |An Obama supporter questions Hillary’s involvement in trying to bring universal health care to the masses and Bill responds as if someone just told him that Chelsea has announced her endorsement for Obama.
This guy is losing it. Shame on you Bill!!!
12 Responses to “Bill Clinton Goes Off on Obama Supporter”
By Jersey McJones on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Obama’s healthcare plan is a fuckin’ joke. It will not work. It’s designed as yet another easy, palatable answer for a difficult problem. No sacrifice, no reward. Either we cover everyone, or we may as well keep the status quo. By excluding the young and stupid, the Obama plan guarentees that about 15% of healthcvare costs, most all on the backs of the taxpayers and community hospitals, continues on it’s merry way while early detection, of diseases that will incur much greater later, will go on undetected.
When it comes to healthcare plans, no one has a perfect one, but Obama’s is barely any better than McCain’s. In fact, I haven’t seen any plan about anything from Obama that offers much improvement for our lives and our country. Hopefully, if he wins, we’ll see some good ideas forthcoming. So far, this love affair with Obama striockes me as juvenile, pie-eyed, and shallow.
JMJ
By Steve O on May 9, 2008 | Reply
JMJ, nice diversion but what’s that got to do with Bill breaking down defending a plan that didn’t happen and not addressing Hillary’s new plan that sucks balls.
Monica.
By Gorbe on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Hmmm. Obama’s healthcare plan is supposedly a joke. Yet, Mr. Clinton spent little time discussing any facts, but instead decided to attack someone who dared to question the wisdom of his wife. Did the Boy Genius overlook the low hanging fruit of Obama’s supposedly worthless plan? Or is Clinton a frustrated man with little in the way of facts to back up his rants?
By Jersey McJones on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Hillary’s plan is better. Her initial plan back in ‘93 was better still. But you’re right, it has nothing to do with Bill and his Fairy Tale Land discourses. Trust me, I’m NO Clinton fan - neither one of them. Never have been. Stautus quo, baby boomer, useless SOBs if you ask me, Monica. I just think we should be more critical of Obama. I don’t think his healthcare plan is worth a squat. And I don;t think he even has a plan for anything else - from trade, to education, to progressive taxation, to the race/class war (re: Drug War), to the colonial oil war, to the war on America known as the PA and the PAA, to our infrastructure, and on and on. Call me a cynic, but I don’t think our country has had anything remotely close to a great president since FDR (or as my wife says, “We haven’t had a great president since Eleanor Roosevelt”) and I don’t see anything like him (or her) coming any time soon.
I hope I’m wrong - about Obama, and about Americans being decent enough to vote for a black man. Unfortunetly, I’m rarely wrong.
JMJ
By Steve O on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Hey JMJ,
If voting changed anything it would be illegal.
Saw that quote the other day and then downed a fifth of Jack.
By rube cretin on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Steve O,
I’m confused. “this guy is loosing it.” listen i want to vote for obama, however,you rabid obama fans are trying to make it very hard for me. Damn right he is loosing it, because the statement the lady makes is absolutely absurd. Have we forgotten the Thelma and Lousise adds. The real problem is that someone did not bitch slap this woman for making such a stupid uninformed statement during his speech. Who in the hell is running the obama campaign, Donald Segretti and Lee Atwater. While there are many reasons not to like Bill and Hillary, one thing they will do when someone suggests an untruth they do not let it stand. Letting this sort of shit stand it what got Kerry and Gore defeated during the last two election. Dammit when someone makes a untrue statement call it on them quickly or the sheeple will believe it is true. Stop featuring this kind of bull shit. if obama wins in Nov it will be because Bill Clinton worked his ass off for him. And that is the truth.
By Steve O on May 9, 2008 | Reply
I’m no rabid Obama fan but for fuck sake, the only reason Bill let Hillary run with the whole health care thing during his presidency was so that she could use it as a sounding board when she ran for president.
It was a pipe dream and they knew it would never happen but it definitely sounds good talking about it during a campaign. Her new plan sucks balls.
Monica.
By rube cretin on May 9, 2008 | Reply
Steve O,
i admit to not being very sophisticated. But i do know when i am wasting my time.
By Jersey McJones on May 9, 2008 | Reply
LOL! You sound just like SteveO! “Fuck sake”??? LOL!
Do you really think that back in the early nineties the Clintons were already planning a Hillary presidency? I have read that, but I find it a little far out. I think she was just trying to be the next Eleanor but didn’t count on the emerging Republican Revolution and utter stupidity of the American public. I always figured it was the nomination of GWB that tatooed the urge to run on Hillary’s brain. In other words she thought, “Well, if that stupid shmuck can win on his father’s legacy, than certainly I can win on Bill’s!” She may have wanted to run prior to that, and certainly the senate bid was a prep, but I don’t know how realistic she thought it was. And then, of course, the intensely stupid media pundits crowned her before the race even got started and only further assured her that she would win, only to be upset by Obama and the fact that plenty of Dems and Liberals were never big fans of Bill or her anyway.
Just the same, I think the Dems were terribly unrealistic with these two candidates. Hillary’s negatives were always too high, and women and minorities, throughout history, usually only win when they represent the antithesis of their otherwise ostensible constituencies.
I wrote about that on another post here. Take Indira Ghandi, Margaret Thatcher, Imelda Marcos, Joseph Stalin, Marshall Tito, Adolf Hitler - all women or ethnic minorities, all diametrically opposed to the interests of their gender or ethnicities (except maybe Hitler - the Austrians were pretty extreme back then).
JMJ
By Ken Grandlund on May 10, 2008 | Reply
Obama’s attractiveness (to me at least) lies less in any specific plans or policies he may have and more in the attitude he brings to the table. He purports to be inclusive in a way that embraces the average citizen and our power to reclaim our government from the sleazy money brokers who run the show today.
If he ends up only being an elected cheerleader who can inspire a new class of politicians- ones who actually remember that they serve the people and not the corporations- that will be a giant step in the right direction IMO.
Furthermore, the alternatives (Hillary, McCain, et al.) simply seek to continue the status quo and further our slide down the shithole of ineptitude in government, lack of responsibility to the people of this country, erosion in world standing, and a worsening world in general.
And quite frankly, Obama’s health care plan may not be the next best thing since sliced bread, but covering more people is at least a step forward- which since this country can’t seem to do anything right the first time around at least gets us on the path, which is something that no one else is doing. Baby steps are surely better than no steps at all or walking backwards.
As for Hillary’s “vaunted” health care plan- the one composed behind closed doors (ala the Cheney energy bill meetings) and shielded from public scrutiny until very, very recently- I son’t see how her involvement in a plan that never came to fruition or even out of the starting gate is supposed to make me think she’s some great brain on solving problems.
I liked Bill as a president, but frankly, were it not for his overactive libido (coupled with American Victorian prudishness), Bush the Chimp might well have never even been elected. The first Bush vote was a backlash against Clinton’s sexual pecadilloes as much (if not more than) as any general dislike for Gore. So as far as I am concerned, we have the Clinton’s to thank (in no small part) for the last 8 years of Bush disaster. Now they expect us to further another political dynasty?
No…we can’t.
By rube cretin on May 10, 2008 | Reply
ken and jersey,
very good thinking and analysis. you guys show some maturity and wisdom.
By steve on May 10, 2008 | Reply
Bill is about as relevant and useful as Jimmy Carter…
McCain!!!