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McCain Deception at Saddlebrook Church

August 18th, 2008 | by Papamoka |

Rick Warren holds in his hands and his church the thoughts of many Evangelical voters. The people following his church, Saddleback Faith, his reputation as a leader in that faith is now in question if the responses to a closed question and answer session of both Presidential candidates is ever proven out that John McCain was prompted on any of the answers to the questions. Devout honesty is paramount in this type of question and answer session. Cone of silence aside, as Rick Warren promised had been compromised and the MSM press is all over it like a fire ants nest disturbed. Obama was set up and Rick Warren is hiding something. That something is the truth and the fact that he wanted Obama to look like a near do well, and his prefered candidate a star.

Evangelicals should be very wary of a man like John McCain that declares his faith is in the same corner as their belief, but when an opportunity to lie and deceive people presents itself he grasps it as if it were gold. Lies, deception, and anything you want to hear is in the McCain campaign mantra that if an edge presents itself that it can somehow be garnished by answering questions that Senator McCain was not supposed to hear, then John McCain will take it. Answers that Senator Obama gave to the same questions honestly and thoughtfully were allegedly prepared for Senator McCain and this is outrageous! Over at the Huffington Post they are questioning McCain’s responses…

I must admit that listening to McCain answer Pastor Rick Warren’s questions so quickly and glibly last night at the Saddleback Faith Forum made me wonder if he somehow knew them in advance. He was so confident, so concise. But I put the thought aside as unduly paranoid — that is until a few minutes ago. I was routinely checking my favorite election website and the webmaster, Nate Silver, referred to a piece in Daily Kos about the whereabouts of John McCain for the first thirty minutes of Senator Obama’s interview with Rick Warren. Was he in a cone of silence? Perhaps not. - Huffington Post

Andrea Mitchell of MSNBC raised this ruckus and I happen to think that she is right. John McCain never does well on off the wall comments and usually stumbles in all of his replies. Yes, both of the candidates were given a heads up by Rick Warren on what the subjects were going to be about but there was no knowledge of the exact questions before the event at Saddlebrook. Somebody is lying and this You Tube video slams the door shut. John McCain was fully aware of the questions to be asked, most likely prompted on the responses to give, and his opponent Barack Obama was totally in the dark.

How did John McCain with his upfront personality answer the questions that were supposed to be asked answer them so quickly on education? He couldn’t have unless he knew ahead of time what they were going to be. Tell me I’m wrong! Tell me that you would vote for a person that would rather lie, deceive, cheat, steal, and rather lose his own soul just to win an office job in the White House. Power is a strong motive and motivation based on shadows of the truth is not and can not be the American way. Never!

We can look back on our own American history and be proud of George Washington our first President, Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, Franklin Roosevelt, Harry Truman, Dwight Eisenhower, John F. Kennedy, Ronald Reagan all as Presidents that contributed so much to what it means to be an American today. You may or may not agree to any of their politics but shame or regret was never in their minds while President. Their work as President was not about them at all, it was about building America to be a better nation.

Can we honestly look at John McCain as a Presidential contender that has morphed himself into George W. Bush, one of the least popular Presidents in American history? An administration of the White House where lies have superseded the truth more times than not? You decide, it’s your vote!


Originally posted at Papamoka Straight Talk…

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  1. 3 Responses to “McCain Deception at Saddlebrook Church”

  2. By Craig R. Harmon on Aug 18, 2008 | Reply

    My take: for McCain, this whole thing of McCain not being in the isolation room before Obama’s session began was Stupid and very damaging for McCain.

    First, politically, this is pretty much a disaster for McCain and a self made disaster at that. I mean, if he was supposed to be in some special room, isolated so that he couldn’t know what questions Obama was asked, that is, if that was the whole point of the forum, to distinguish it from a debate, then, damn it, he should have been in a room before the questions and answers by Obama were started, isolated so that he couldn’t know what Obama was being asked. He shouldn’t have been leaving his hotel room late, riding in his car during much of the event where he could have been in cell-phone contact with someone in his campaign who was watching the Q&A with Obama and then be walking through the Church where he might have heard what was going on before reaching the isolation room. He should have been in the room, with no cell-phones before the Obama segment began.


    But having said that, let me say this: from the YouTube video, it seems obvious McCain was making a joke. Does anyone know if a transcript of the entire event has been made? Does anyone know if, indeed, “Yes, yes, and find bad teachers another line of work” make sense as answers to the questions that Obama was asked? Were there really two yes-or-no-answer questions asked of Obama followed by a “What do you do with bad teachers” question? I don’t know. I didn’t watch the event. I’m just thinking that I don’t have enough information to know whether McCain was giving coherent answers to the questions asked Obama or he was just making a joke about the fact that he wasn’t supposed to know the questions because he was supposed to have been isolated and so I’m trying to find out.

    If, “Yes, yes, and find bad teachers another line of work” were not coherent answers to the questions asked Obama or that were subsequently asked of McCain, then the YouTube video is not evidence of anything, let alone that McCain knew the answers in advance. All it is evidence of, in that case, is that McCain made a joke and lots of people laughed.

    But the bottom line, for me is this: whether he cheated or not — and I haven’t seen anything like proof that McCain cheated — politically this was stupid. After the 2004 debate against Kerry, where Bush was accused of wearing a communication device and was being fed answers, it was pretty much a bird-brained move for McCain not to have been exactly where he was expected to be when he was expected to be there. Even if he didn’t cheat, disproving that he did is pretty much impossible and so this will hang over his head for a very long time.

  3. By Josie on Aug 20, 2008 | Reply

    Just like the dems to cry that McCain cheated. Whenever they do not perform well it is always someone else’s fault. Obama was told one of the questions beforehand and McCain wasn’t. Warren admitted to that. Also, because Obama could not make up his mind and was so boring when he was beating around the bush it took him longer to answer the questions and McCain actually answered more questions because he was more direct. He obviously knows where he stands on issues. It is sickening to hear the dems always whinning about election results and cheating when they are not winning in any situation. The voting boths were just fine when Clinton won the election. Imagine that! The dems have become a bunch of spoiled children with their whinning and complaining when things aren’t their way. If the tables were turned, they would be going crazy with hate towards anyone that would say that Obama cheated. They would be vile, mean spirited and just plain vicious. Grow up. American is tired of it. America just happened to agree with McCain more. They are tired of the nonsense and never having a straigth answer when they ask a question and it shows.

  4. By Matthew O'Keefe on Aug 20, 2008 | Reply

    I’m sorry for my clearly documented post Josie. I will go whine and cry at the wind if that will make you happy. Then I will go live under my rock so you and people like you can screw over the American people and rape the nation blind. I think you need to grow up and have some facts when you want to rant.

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