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McCain’s Cross to Bare

August 19th, 2008 | by Steve O |

It would appear that McCain’s little cross story is not his, never was his and is something that the MSM should be calling him on. But in the usual fashion it would appear that this story will just float around in the blogs like a turd circling the toilet.

It’s a shame that a former POW has to lie about his experiences as a POW to try and get votes from the religious base.

A few questions for all you religious folks out there, McCain/Bush is LYING to get your vote, isn’t that a sin in and of itself? How can you still vote for him? Is it the whole confession thing? Is that it, after being elected he can just confess his lies to get elected and start new gain?

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  1. 5 Responses to “McCain’s Cross to Bare”

  2. By Craig R. Harmon on Aug 19, 2008 | Reply

    Veeeerrrryyyy interesting! According to this, the cross thing probably never happened to Solzhenitsyn, it doesn’t appear anywhere in The Gulag Archipelago and only appears in a priest’s sermon. There doesn’t seem to be any evidence that the story originates in Solzhenitsyn and so there is no way that McCain, who says he admires the author’s work, could have plagiarized the story from anything that Solzhenitsyn ever said or wrote. The story appears to be legend with respect to Solzhenizsyn. Doesn’t mean that McCain couldn’t have gotten the legend from somewhere and appropriated it to his own life story but it seems he couldn’t have gotten it from the source most people are assuming he got it from.

    So maybe the only lie here is the one being told by McCain critics, namely that McCain got the story from Solzhenitsyn. Did it actually happen to McCain? Who knows. Unless you were there with McCain every moment of his captivity, I don’t see how it could be proven that it DIDN’T happen to McCain. So perhaps we’re just a tad early speculating about the shame of a former POW lying about his experiences? Do you think that might be a possibility?

  3. By christopher Radulich on Aug 19, 2008 | Reply

    It’s been years since I read The Gulag. Two huge volumes. Exactly how did you determine that it was not in the book? Since the sermon was copy righted in 2001, Hoffacker would have had to have heard it from Solzhenitsyn, read it in a book by Solzhenitsyn, or made it up. There is no record of Solzhenitsyn denying it.

    Though I have to say there is no reason not to believe McSames account even if Solzhenitsyn had the same.

  4. By christopher Radulich on Aug 19, 2008 | Reply

    Then Again McSame is a republican so the odds are extremely good that he is lying. It’s what they do.

  5. By Craig R. Harmon on Aug 19, 2008 | Reply

    Christopher,

    I didn’t determine anything. I linked to an article that cites a Solzhenitzyn scholar who has determined that. My claim is no stronger than the claim by the scholar cited. That’s why I said, “According to this…” and linked to the article. Did you click the link? Apparently you didn’t even read my comment very carefully since, if you had, you would have known the answer to your question before you asked it. Hell. I gave you the answer. All you had to do was click on a link.
    The Pastor could have heard it from anywhere, a story told by someone to him about Solzhenitsyn. There is no record of Solzhenitsyn denying it but where’s the record of Solzhenitsyn affirming it? Evidence here is inconclusive at best and arguments from silence are useless. The annals of history are full of stories growing up around significant characters that are entirely fictitious.

    Maybe the guy in the article is all wet. I don’t know. Again, that’s why I didn’t assert it on my own authority.

  6. By Craig R. Harmon on Aug 19, 2008 | Reply

    From the article that I linked, some of the details of the pastor’s telling simply could not be true so it seems unlikely that the pastor got the story directly from Solzhenitzyn or, if so, he appears not to have been too careful about getting details correct. This calls into question the reliability of the pastor’s version. Doesn’t prove that the event didn’t happen to Solzhenitsyn, since he may have misremembered some details but got the gist correct. Again, I don’t claim that the story IS bogus, only that there seem to be some fairly good sized holes in the claim that it DID happen to him. The only sources appear to be right wing Evangelical Christians and you know how reliable THEY are! ;-)

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