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Timeline To Tyranny

October 9th, 2008 | by Ken Grandlund |

Will Americans get a chance to vote for a new president? Take a look at one frightening possibility in my latest video creation-Timeline to Tyranny.

Here’s hoping I’m completely wrong, that we all get a chance to vote and that Bush is sent packing-and McCain too! If I’m right though, I’ll try to hook up with you in Canada.

(cross posted at Common Sense)

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  1. 24 Responses to “Timeline To Tyranny”

  2. By Steve O on Oct 9, 2008 | Reply

    That is some scary shit Ken. God I hope you are wrong!!!!!!

  3. By Matthew O'Keefe on Oct 9, 2008 | Reply

    Damn that was good! Mind if I borrow it?

  4. By Liberal Jarhead on Oct 9, 2008 | Reply

    What, us worry? We’re only 90% of the way there…
    Personally, I think there’s at least as much danger of their waiting until after the election to see whether they can get away with stealing another one, and then if they don’t, pulling the coup between Nov. 4 and Jan. 20.

  5. By manapp99 on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply

    LJ, your statement about stealing another one (election) means you think they (the GOP) have stolen previous ones. If that were the case how do you explain the Dems taking over congress in 2006? Seems that stealing a bunch of little elections would be easier than stealing the Presidential elections.

    I think the real problem here is that the grocery stores stopped selling tin foil long ago and the aluminum of today just isn’t as effective.

  6. By Lisa on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply

    I thought McCain used to be the republican that democrats could vote for now he’s the Anti-Christ?

    McCain is not Bush and thank od he’s not Obama either. Actually he’s not left and not right,he’s center.

  7. By Paul Watson on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply

    Actually, Lisa, is right wing (not exceptionally so, but still right of centre). Obama is just about left wing enough to count as centrist outside of America, but McCain, afraid not.

  8. By Paul Watson on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply

    And as it’s relevant to roving my point: Link

  9. By Chris Radulich on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply

    He was, but that was before he decided that the agents of intolerance were good people.

    That was before he decided that his immigration bill was bad.

    That was before he decided that character assassination was the way to win the presidency.

    That was before he decided that the bush tax cuts were good.

    And certianly it was before Palin.

  10. By Liberal Jarhead on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    Yes, OF COURSE they’ve stolen past elections! Hell, even the fundamentalists have sometimes admitted Bush didn’t actually win (see the speeches of General Boykin.) Look at the popular vote in 2000, and at what the popular vote would have been in 2004 without the illegal removal of so many Democrats from the voter rolls (which they’re working hard to again this year.) The reason the Dems took Congress in 2006 was that for those election-stealing tactics to succeed, it has to be at least close, and 2006 wasn’t even close.

    Talk about aluminum foil, I’d say that comment should be aimed at all these “Obama’s a Muslim, he’s evil because his middle name is Hussein (which is about as common in other places as an American having John or Bob in his name), “he’s evil because there’s only one letter difference between Obama and Osama,” etc. Next the wingnuts will probably start talking about Nostradamus and secret messages from the UFOs.

  11. By manapp99 on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    LJ, have you been following the stories about ACORN? Their actions are the most brazen example of trying to steal an election there is. And they sure as hell ain’t GOPers.

    As I am sure you are aware, the popular vote in a Presidential election don’t mean squat. If it did then there would have to been a recount of the popular vote in the entire nation in 2000. The popular vote was recorded in favor of Gore by LESS of a margin than was the Florida vote. A national recount would have likely change vote totals by the 10s of thousands instead of just the hundreds in Florida. Had this of happened it could have been that W had the lead. The alleged popular vote victory for Gore was easily within the margin of error.

    However the point is moot given the fact that the popular vote doesn’t matter.

    There is now and there never was any evidence what-so-ever that any election was “stolen”

    That you believe to be so goes to your partisan bias and has no basis in fact.

  12. By windspike on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    ACORN has just completed the largest, most successful nonpartisan voter registration drive in U.S. history. We helped 1.3 million low-income, minority and young voters across the country register to vote.

    Unfortunately, just as in 2006, that success in bringing people into the democratic process, have been greeted with unfounded accusations to disparage our work and help maintain the status quo of an unbalanced electorate.

    After a similar spate of charges against ACORN in 2006, we learned that then-Attorney General Alberto Gonzales had fired Republican U.S. Attorneys because they refused to prosecute ACORN and other voter assistance groups on trumped up fraud charges. This was the heart of the U.S. Attorney-gate scandal that led Karl Rove, Gonzales and other top Department of Justice officials to resign. Because the press didn’t catch on until long after the election, it was part of a successful strategy to create an unfounded specter of voter fraud and to suppress voting.

  13. By manapp99 on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    “Posted: Aug. 29, 2008
    Milwaukee’s top election official said Thursday she plans to seek criminal investigations of 10 more voter registration workers, including two accused of offering gifts to sign up voters.

    AdvertisementMost of the suspect workers appear to have falsified driver’s license numbers, Social Security numbers or other information on voter registration cards, Election Commission Executive Director Sue Edman said.

    Counting the latest group, Edman will have referred 49 voter registration workers this month to Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf for possible prosecution. Milwaukee police are looking at the evidence to determine whether criminal charges are warranted against the workers, Landgraf said.

    About 250 to 300 of the registration cards submitted by those workers are under scrutiny, Edman said.

    All the workers were paid by two organizations running voter registration drives, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now and the Community Voters Project. Overall, 37 of the suspect workers were on the ACORN payroll, 11 were paid by the voters project and it’s not clear who employed the other one.”

    http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=788738

  14. By manapp99 on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    “CLEVELAND - A man at the center of a voter-registration scandal told The Post yesterday he was given cash and cigarettes by aggressive ACORN activists in exchange for registering an astonishing 72 times, in apparent violation of Ohio laws.

    “Sometimes, they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they’ll give me a dollar to sign up,” said Freddie Johnson, 19, who filled out 72 separate voter-registration cards over an 18-month period at the behest of the left-leaning Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now.”

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/10102008/news/politics/1_voter__72_registrations_132965.htm

  15. By manapp99 on Oct 11, 2008 | Reply

    “The state of Ohio and the heavily Democratic area of Cuyahoga County are yet again embroilled in elections controversy. Claims from area residents that they have been hounded by the community activist group ACORN to register to vote multiple times have sparked an investigation by election officials into ACORN, whose political wing has supported Barack Obama.

    Yesterday two Ohio voters came forth and claimed that although they had made it clear they were already registered to vote, ACORN canvassers encouraged them to sign up several times. One of those was Christopher Barkley of Cleveland, who estimates that he registered to vote “10 to 15″ times after ACORN relentlessly pursued him.

    “I kept getting approached by folks who asked me to register,” Barkley said. “They’d ask me if I was registered. I’d say yes, and they’d ask me to do it [register] again. Some of them were getting paid to collect names. That was their sob story, and I bought it,” he said.”

    http://www.clevelandleader.com/node/7195

    There’s more, of course, but you will have to look harder than going to the ACORN website if you want the truth.

    You do want the truth….don’t you?

  16. By Chris Radulich on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    While these activities(assuming they are true) are wrong and should be stopped, how exactly does this steal an election. Cast votes, not voter registrations, are what decide an election. This is especially true in states like Florida with voter match laws.

  17. By manapp99 on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    You don’t think that ACORN was signing up these people just to waste a few trees do you?

    They fully intend/hope that the people illegally signed up WILL vote. If the illegal votes tip the balance, this is stealing an election.

    Also, look at the members of ACORN that have been arrested for voter fraud in past elections.

    Like these:

    “Eight ACORN Workers Arrested For Election Fraud

    Brett Blume Reporting

    St. Louis (KMOX News) — (St. Louis) — Eight people face federal voter fraud charges for work they performed in support of a Missouri minimum wage ballot item in 2006.

    The indictments unsealed Friday morning say while collecting signatures for ACORN and Project Vote, the defendants submitted false names and addresses to the Board of Election Commissoners in St. Louis city and county.”

    http://www.kmox.com/pages/1375286.php?

    This was people attempting to steal an election.

    Acorn is now actively trying to influence this election with fraudulent votes. They will not be fraudulent until cast, however it is clearly the intent of those signing up ineligible people to vote to defraud the system.

  18. By Windspike on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    Man,

    Is it unpatriotic to register voters? I thought voting was about at American as you can get.

  19. By Liberal Jarhead on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    ACORN is just the latest smokescreen, along with Ayers.

    Yes, it’s wrong that some of ACORN’s canvassers submitted fraudulent registrations, and they should be prosecuted. But ACORN’s role as an organization appears to be more having done something dumb, i.e. paid canvassers by the number of registrations they came up with, rather than concocting a conspiracy. Or do you want to buy into the assumption that every nutjob who does something wrong on the right is doing it because it was official Republican policy? How about the people who’ve been yelling “Kill him!” about Obama at Republican rallies - shall we assume that it’s official Republican strategy to advocate Obama’s murder? If you’re going to buy into that logic, you have to accept that idea too.

    The idea of the American republic trembling at its foundations because that giant evil organization called ACORN is trying to steal an election is pathetic. It’s just stupid. It’s a smokescreen, like I said, because the Republicans (as one of McCain’s campaign managers said) know that if they let the election be about issues, they will lose in a landslide. At this point they’re desperate and all they’ve got is mud, slander, hate and innuendo.

  20. By manapp99 on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    No wind, it is unpatriotic to try and steal elections with voter fraud.

    You are against voter fraud, aren’t you?

  21. By manapp99 on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    LJ, I am not saying that you should not vote for Obama because of his ties to ACORN, or even Ayers for that matter. I think you should not vote for him because he is unproven as a politician and espouses the more government as a solution to our problems.

    I am saying that ACORN is an evil left wing organization that should be shut down do to trying to influence (steal) elections with fraudulent practices. I am sure you would agree if they were doing the same things but represented right wing causes.

  22. By Windspike on Oct 12, 2008 | Reply

    …it is unpatriotic to try and steal elections with voter fraud.

    What about Florida in Y2K? Are you outraged about that Man?

    BTW, You still haven’t discussed your favor for freedom but disdain for liberty. Which one is more important

  23. By Chris Radulich on Oct 13, 2008 | Reply

    Where are the articles on people arrested for false voting? If you want I can post the articles for people being denied voting.

  24. By manapp99 on Oct 13, 2008 | Reply

    Florida…Y2K….You will have to provide the link as I recall Florida and I recall Y2K but I do not recall the link.

    I am against all voter fraud. However as I recall Florida I remember the butterfly ballots that were designed by a Democrat and resulted in other Dems not voting their intentions. Then, of course there were the hanging chads. These were all human error issues not fraud.

    As far as favor of freedom or liberty? I am not sure what you are driving at. If I missed a question I am sorry. Which is more important? As I look up the definition of freedom I see the first entry as “the state of being free or at liberty” So they must be synonymous.

    Can you please repeat the question?

  25. By manapp99 on Oct 13, 2008 | Reply

    Chris….google voter fraud+arrests+acorn

    Then read. I can only post one link per post so it is tedious however here are a few excerpts taken from articles found:

    “A York man employed part-time by ACORN was arrested Saturday and charged with submitting more than 100 bogus registrations over eight days in June.”

    Another:

    “King and Pierce County prosecutors filed felony charges today against seven people who allegedly committed the biggest voter-registration fraud in state history.

    The defendants, who were paid employees and supervisors of ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, concocted the scheme as an easy way to get paid, not as an attempt to influence the outcome of elections, King County Prosecuting Attorney Dan Satterberg said.”

    Another article on the same story:

    “SEATTLE (AP) — Prosecutors filed felony charges against seven people in what one official described as the worst case of voter registration fraud in state history.”

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